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I've Seen that one before....
15 years 6 months ago #211
by mr.magic
I've Seen that one before.... was created by mr.magic
Anyone had troubles with easily recognizable props (change bag, hippity hop rabbits, dove pan etc.) where the kids shout out they have seen it before? Or worse, I have that one? I am starting to wonder if certain props just need to retired in favor of less common ones, any thoughts?
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15 years 6 months ago #212
by mattr
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Replied by mattr on topic Re:I've Seen that one before....
I do believe that magicians should try as much as possible to put a new look on standard effects so that (1) their presentation is unique to them and (2) they tricks will tend not to elicit the "I've seen it before" response. I remember reading somewhere that the Hippity Hop bunnies can be transfored into a different trick simply by just using one and making it a color change routine. I haven't tried this but the idea is that just giving a trick a slightly different look and routine may make all the difference.
Having said that, there may be tricks that are just too common and recognizable to avoid that response such as the magic coloring book.
Having said that, there may be tricks that are just too common and recognizable to avoid that response such as the magic coloring book.
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15 years 5 months ago #218
by wendell
Replied by wendell on topic Re:I've Seen that one before....
i really dont worry much when they shout out . we as magicians should always be in control of our show. sometimes you can say to the one saying ive seen that one before or i know how its done "then its our little secret,we wont tell the others how its done" this makes the kid feel important cause he stands out as an expert in magic to the others. just let them gloat about it and fedl good about themself and do the tricks anyway. no need to get rid of the dove pan, hippity hop rabbit etc...just dress it up with showmanship. we should be entertainers first and magicians second. the magic is a tool to that end. the most astounding magic ever seen is so simple in effect. why do somthing complicated that done simply offers the same result. thats another discussion topic right there. what tricks that you have done that were so simple,yet they brought the house down. then what tricks were complex, didnt go over very good. let me know. magically brian
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15 years 5 months ago #221
by mr.magic
Replied by mr.magic on topic Re:I've Seen that one before....
Thanks for the response Wendell, I think you can be innovative with a utility prop like a dove pan but when it comes to something like the coloring book which does a set thing, I just wonder how innovative you can be when kids recognize it from sight and know what is going to happen next.
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15 years 3 months ago #264
by rgullion
Replied by rgullion on topic Re:I've Seen that one before....
Don't "retire" those "old" tricks, yet......
I too believe that each performer can take an old effect and create a new presentation that will make it "different" than someone may have seen it performed before....So many magicians don't want to perform “old” magic tricks and/or illusions because, they believe, they’re overexposed, or "everybody knows that one". This may come from magicians seeing other magicians performing magic tricks at meetings and conventions, and other events they may attend and once they’ve seen it 5 or 6 times, it’s “overexposed” or “old”. Yes, there are tricks that have been overdone and overexposed to audiences..... But there's still some life in those "old" tricks.
Look in your collection and choose a trick and try applying to the effect some material other than the one the trick was originally intended for, maybe combining it with another effect or taking an effect and using a different type of object(s) than the original material called for can breathe new life into an old, “overexposed” trick. Create a new story line or add some comedy...
Learning tricks and learning to perform them well can be challenging enough. But learning ways to make those "old" tricks feel fresh and new is how you can make your mark in magic.
I too believe that each performer can take an old effect and create a new presentation that will make it "different" than someone may have seen it performed before....So many magicians don't want to perform “old” magic tricks and/or illusions because, they believe, they’re overexposed, or "everybody knows that one". This may come from magicians seeing other magicians performing magic tricks at meetings and conventions, and other events they may attend and once they’ve seen it 5 or 6 times, it’s “overexposed” or “old”. Yes, there are tricks that have been overdone and overexposed to audiences..... But there's still some life in those "old" tricks.
Look in your collection and choose a trick and try applying to the effect some material other than the one the trick was originally intended for, maybe combining it with another effect or taking an effect and using a different type of object(s) than the original material called for can breathe new life into an old, “overexposed” trick. Create a new story line or add some comedy...
Learning tricks and learning to perform them well can be challenging enough. But learning ways to make those "old" tricks feel fresh and new is how you can make your mark in magic.
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15 years 3 months ago #265
by mattr
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Replied by mattr on topic Re:I've Seen that one before....
The problem becomes when the trick is so recognizable just by sight that kids say "I've seen it before..." By dressing up or repainting an existing trick and giving a new look and a new presentation, it can make all the difference.
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